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It’s like a David Lynch film: Just when you think two and a half hours of convoluted characters and impenetrable plot is quite enough, thanks, you find out there’s another 90 minutes to go. But you’ve already paid your $9.50, so you should stick it out, right?
Is Ron Paul still running? He’s Lynch-ian.
My secret hope is that it comes down to a mud-pit pig wrestling competition, live on the floor of the convention. That would be awesome.
My money is on the girl from Arkansas - she knows her some pig wrestling, I bet.
And yes, Ron Paul is still running.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
You should hear the feminists in Seattle (men and women) trying to think this one through…
No doubt.
I’m getting pretty tired of all of the coverage hammering the “identity politics” angle (a phrase I had never heard before, but is now apparently NPR’s favorite buzzword). I think at this point they’re rounded up every black woman in the country and asked her how she plans to vote. You know, the black guy or the woman, because clearly your choice of candidate is based on who has the same skin color or plumbing that you have.
I’m just waiting for one of those interviewees to say “McCain”, and for some poor NPR field reporter’s head to explode.
Precisely. It’s starting to piss me off, actually. Not to mention feminist leaders who feel betrayed by women who plan to vote for Obama and snarkily say that ‘feminism has come a long way when women won’t vote for a candidate just because she’s a woman’. Two things: 1. That’s…a bad thing? and 2. Wasn’t that the WHOLE POINT of feminism? Having choices and the freedom to act on them?
I really hope Phil doesn’t see this. I feel dirty.
I think the feminist movement has a pretty well-established history of stigmatizing those women who use their freedom to make the “wrong” choices.
Every group has its a-holes, I guess…
not to get too philosophical, but I’d argue that people who argue for equality don’t really want equality. I think it’s something more self-serving than that. I know that Aly and Mike are going to expound on this more eloquently than I am currently doing.
In 3…2…1…
Gurgh. Me not thinky today.
I don’t think most people actually believe in equality, however much we may yell for it. Most of us think we’re either better than or inferior to most everyone else. But the principle sounds awfully nice. And biblical and stuff.
On a side note, I call myself a feminist, but I’ve had a bone to pick with the movement for years. (This is similar to how I call myself a Christian and then spend a lot of time harping about how no one is getting it as right as I am.) It seems to me that the feminist movement, back in its Earth-mother, baking bread in flowy garments beginnings, started out on the right track: It wanted us as a culture to value womanish things (motherhood, intuition, empathy, consensus, creativity, etc.) as highly as we already valued manish things (competition, achievement, innovation, strength, etc.). Instead, the bra-burners teamed up with Playboy and Planned Parenthood, donned power suits and pantyhose, and convinced themselves they had come out the winners… when really all they had done was become men with boobs. And now they’re pissed at their daughters for not following in their stompy stiletto footsteps.
Not all feminists of the older generation are like that, of course… and some women are naturally less Earth-mothery than others (yours truly included). I just think feminism created some big problems even as it was trying its damndest to solve some big problems.
How the hell did I get on this topic? Oh. Hillary.
Wow, Aly. Good summary of the feminist movement.
I sometimes think I am for equality. However, about a year ago, we got mice. After much stress, money spent and new tupperware, we heard them in the middle of the night. One was running around our family room with his hind legs stuck on a sticky trap. My husband victoriously took it into the back yard and killed it with a large rock. When he came back, I said, “You could not have paid me to do that,” and he said, “You could not have paid me to not do that.” I was glad to have a husband.
Likewise, I know specifically which of our town’s police officers I would want to rescue me in an emergency. He is tall, very buff, and a good, trustworthy man.
But seeing as the President of the United States won’t be guarding my house from pests or answering 9-1-1 calls… Sure, a woman can do it. Maleness surely has not equaled greatness in the past. Some of the attributes Aly listed could be of use in the White House.
(Also, as Cerise mentioned, this woman (me) won’t vote for a woman just because she’s a woman.)
Isn’t it strange that it is generally acceptable that a woman is running for President, and my church (which I love) has never had a woman elder? History plays out in weird ways.
To rephrase: I was glad to have MY husband. :)
I dig that he posts as “Sharolyn’s Husband.” I think he should be allowed to stand next to Stick and June in the choir in May.
Oh, and Cerise and Ramon as well.
Crap.
Corey too.
And all of us together…
… shall RAWK!
Please don’t tease. If you’re not coming, don’t tease. The thought of all of you good folks coming down and singing your crazy asses off is almost more than i can stand, so if it’s not going to happen, don’t even joke about it.
[sniff]
Can’t make it, Chad…I will be babysitting the kids that weekend. Sharolyn raises them, I babysit them occasionally when she needs to go to the grocery store, or get her nails done, buy paint for the house, or other “chicky” things.
It is my pet peeve when men say they are “babysitting”.
I bet Hillary hates that, too.
Wait, who said we’ll be in the choir? We’re the hecklers, remember? I have zero need to sing in public…but I DO want the makeover that all the American Idol finalists get! It’s rather amazing really…they start out looking normal and end up looking like…people you see on tv.
I’m not fond of the “babysitting” term either in regard to parents. Babysitters are the extortionists that get paid big bucks to lounge on the couch and raid the pantry while the kids sleep. I expect there to be no lounging or raiding when my husband is looking after his children.
And Aly, I’m sooooo ‘what she said’ about what you said. You say things so very, very well my dear.
When I watch the kids, it’s nothing but lounging on the couch and raiding the fridge for beers. I thought that was pretty standard …
I just started a novel by a stay at home mom called “So, What do you do all Day?” Nice.
Aly, I’d like to also say that boy, when you’re not thinking, you’re still laying down some intellectual rubber. I don’t think I ever heard such a concise and accurate sum-up of What Feminism Was, Has Become and What Sucks About It.
Aly said: “all they had done was become men with boobs”
I caught a glimpse of the Diane Keaton movie “Baby Boom” (1987) recently and it was laughable.
Gretchen, how’s the book?
Yeah, by reading I actually meant “bought and have sitting by my bed, where I pick it us to start, 3 or 4 times” I’ll let you know when I have time to get more than 10 pages in. :)
I thought the “men with boobs” line was pretty profound. Well done, Aly. You delivered as expected.
Gretchen said: “Yeah, by reading I actually meant “bought and have sitting by my bed, where I pick it us to start, 3 or 4 times” I’ll let you know when I have time to get more than 10 pages in. :)”
I think this may have something to do with the title.