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	<title>Comments on: Groupthink: Superbad vs. High School Musical 2</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron Poladian</title>
		<link>http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2007/08/groupthink-superbad-vs-high-school-musical-2/#comment-139545</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Poladian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am truly glad a found this BLOG, I have been looking for a contrast between HSM2 and Super Bad for a long time now... I have a request to see one between Little Women and the Sixth Sense...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am truly glad a found this BLOG, I have been looking for a contrast between HSM2 and Super Bad for a long time now&#8230; I have a request to see one between Little Women and the Sixth Sense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Semsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Semsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CURSE YOU HSM2 for being stuck in our CD player!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CURSE YOU HSM2 for being stuck in our CD player!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Semsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy Semsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sooooo...our car CD player has broken WITH High School Musical 2 soundtrack inside it.  I now know all the words to all the songs, and Nathaniel is in love with it.  Seriously, good songs- getting a bit repetitive after a week, but good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sooooo&#8230;our car CD player has broken WITH High School Musical 2 soundtrack inside it.  I now know all the words to all the songs, and Nathaniel is in love with it.  Seriously, good songs- getting a bit repetitive after a week, but good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: michael lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite commentary on the Dawson's Creek legacy.

&lt;a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=u85UqI1M0W0" rel="nofollow"&gt;Pretty White Kids with Problems&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite commentary on the Dawson&#8217;s Creek legacy.</p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=u85UqI1M0W0" rel="nofollow">Pretty White Kids with Problems</a></p>
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		<title>By: aly hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>aly hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I'm six one way on this question. I edited a book by a young woman (early 20s) not long ago who at one point waxed nostalgic for the good ol' days when families watched &lt;em&gt;Leave It to Beaver&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;I Love Lucy&lt;/em&gt; together, shows which, in her view (I quote) "portrayed happy, healthy families dealing with real life issues in a comedic way." 

I almost wept with laughter. Not that I don't love Ricky, Lucy, Fred and Ethel and the Cleavers (and Eddie Haskel)...but "real life issues"? &lt;a href= "http://www.tv.com/i-love-lucy/lucy-and-harpo-marx/episode/17162/summary.html?tag=ep_list;ep_title;26" rel="nofollow"&gt;Come on&lt;/a&gt;.

On the other hand, I don't think you can accurately call current entertainment "real life" either. Ash and I were talking the other day about The Dawson's Creek Years (which spawned the postmodern teen dramedy), when every show on the WB was  high school kids experiencing "real life" while everything coming out of their mouths sounded like it was written by a team of 40-year-old marriage and family therapists. I wish I were as wise as Pacey when I was 15. A lot of therapy dollars might have been saved later.

Those of us experiencing "real life" don't have story artists to get us into wacky situations at 3:27 and dialogue writers to help us verbally process them at 41:39.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m six one way on this question. I edited a book by a young woman (early 20s) not long ago who at one point waxed nostalgic for the good ol&#8217; days when families watched <em>Leave It to Beaver</em> and <em>I Love Lucy</em> together, shows which, in her view (I quote) &#8220;portrayed happy, healthy families dealing with real life issues in a comedic way.&#8221; </p>
<p>I almost wept with laughter. Not that I don&#8217;t love Ricky, Lucy, Fred and Ethel and the Cleavers (and Eddie Haskel)&#8230;but &#8220;real life issues&#8221;? <a href= "http://www.tv.com/i-love-lucy/lucy-and-harpo-marx/episode/17162/summary.html?tag=ep_list;ep_title;26" rel="nofollow">Come on</a>.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I don&#8217;t think you can accurately call current entertainment &#8220;real life&#8221; either. Ash and I were talking the other day about The Dawson&#8217;s Creek Years (which spawned the postmodern teen dramedy), when every show on the WB was  high school kids experiencing &#8220;real life&#8221; while everything coming out of their mouths sounded like it was written by a team of 40-year-old marriage and family therapists. I wish I were as wise as Pacey when I was 15. A lot of therapy dollars might have been saved later.</p>
<p>Those of us experiencing &#8220;real life&#8221; don&#8217;t have story artists to get us into wacky situations at 3:27 and dialogue writers to help us verbally process them at 41:39.</p>
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		<title>By: michael lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know what direction the trend is heading, pound for pound.

I think some of what we're seeing in the themes of high-school and college movies is an extending adolescence at both ends; kids are dealing with grown up issues like sexual identity and substance use at a much younger age, but they are also neglecting adult roles (financial responsibility, family, career) until later in their 20's.

I'm concerned with the themes of these movies - I agree that the John Hughes movies were by and large not positive messages, but that was also true of a lot of kids movies in the days of yore. 

What's the driving theme of Snow White? Little girl, if you're pretty enough, a man will come with a magic kiss to carry you away from any problem. Cinderella? Little girl, if you work hard enough at your housework, someday a man will marry you, and carry you away from all your problems. Bambi? If you love somebody, they'll probably get shot.

You see my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what direction the trend is heading, pound for pound.</p>
<p>I think some of what we&#8217;re seeing in the themes of high-school and college movies is an extending adolescence at both ends; kids are dealing with grown up issues like sexual identity and substance use at a much younger age, but they are also neglecting adult roles (financial responsibility, family, career) until later in their 20&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m concerned with the themes of these movies - I agree that the John Hughes movies were by and large not positive messages, but that was also true of a lot of kids movies in the days of yore. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the driving theme of Snow White? Little girl, if you&#8217;re pretty enough, a man will come with a magic kiss to carry you away from any problem. Cinderella? Little girl, if you work hard enough at your housework, someday a man will marry you, and carry you away from all your problems. Bambi? If you love somebody, they&#8217;ll probably get shot.</p>
<p>You see my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Semsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Semsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have data to back this up, but I heard that the actual audience for Superbad contained more 30-year-old dudes than high schoolers. 

And even my 6 year-old loves HSM2. 
Good for your bank account. Not so good for mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have data to back this up, but I heard that the actual audience for Superbad contained more 30-year-old dudes than high schoolers. </p>
<p>And even my 6 year-old loves HSM2.<br />
Good for your bank account. Not so good for mine.</p>
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