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		<title>By: grammy</title>
		<link>http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2007/06/little-miss-manners/#comment-91959</link>
		<dc:creator>grammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 04:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Mike, you have hit one of my hot buttons:  spouses treating each other at LEAST as politely as they would their favorite customer/student/client.  I could rant about this issue for the next 45 minutes without a sentence break.  Why do we reserve our worst manners for the one person in the world we should be investing in the most heavily???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Mike, you have hit one of my hot buttons:  spouses treating each other at LEAST as politely as they would their favorite customer/student/client.  I could rant about this issue for the next 45 minutes without a sentence break.  Why do we reserve our worst manners for the one person in the world we should be investing in the most heavily???</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2007/06/little-miss-manners/#comment-91921</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's funny is, right after I read this post, I dealt with some students who are (how shall we say) lacking in the basic manners department, so much that I've had to establish new rules about "polite points."  Lose two points, you get detention.  That's it.  I've got two girls who, literally, are going to come to blows one of these days.  I'm putting my money on the scrappy, angry brunette 9-year-old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s funny is, right after I read this post, I dealt with some students who are (how shall we say) lacking in the basic manners department, so much that I&#8217;ve had to establish new rules about &#8220;polite points.&#8221;  Lose two points, you get detention.  That&#8217;s it.  I&#8217;ve got two girls who, literally, are going to come to blows one of these days.  I&#8217;m putting my money on the scrappy, angry brunette 9-year-old.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2007/06/little-miss-manners/#comment-91760</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get Chad started on the whole "Sir-ma'am" southern thing.  Really.  C'mon.  Double-dog-dare ya.

BTW, I was once perusing a series of young lady's manners pamplets published in the 1950s.  They suggested that one should treat all people with good manners -- not because all people deserve to treated with respect, but because you never know who might be powerful and mighty someday and help you get stuff.  I mean, that's a nice BENEFIT to being nice (see: the moral of many a fairy tale), but it shouldn't be the sole REASON.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get Chad started on the whole &#8220;Sir-ma&#8217;am&#8221; southern thing.  Really.  C&#8217;mon.  Double-dog-dare ya.</p>
<p>BTW, I was once perusing a series of young lady&#8217;s manners pamplets published in the 1950s.  They suggested that one should treat all people with good manners &#8212; not because all people deserve to treated with respect, but because you never know who might be powerful and mighty someday and help you get stuff.  I mean, that&#8217;s a nice BENEFIT to being nice (see: the moral of many a fairy tale), but it shouldn&#8217;t be the sole REASON.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2007/06/little-miss-manners/#comment-90983</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you guys have a long memory.  I actually started writing a post about the Ezzites vs. the Searszites in March, then got sidetracked by a few things.  I figured the subject was too far in the rearview mirror to bring back at this point, but I stand corrected.  As Dick Tracy used to say to his two-way wrist radio in every one of the cheap cartoons they made in the 60s, "Okay, Chief, I'll get on it right away!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you guys have a long memory.  I actually started writing a post about the Ezzites vs. the Searszites in March, then got sidetracked by a few things.  I figured the subject was too far in the rearview mirror to bring back at this point, but I stand corrected.  As Dick Tracy used to say to his two-way wrist radio in every one of the cheap cartoons they made in the 60s, &#8220;Okay, Chief, I&#8217;ll get on it right away!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2007/06/little-miss-manners/#comment-90913</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So cute! Kids with manners rock. 
Are you teaching her "Sir" and Ma'am"? That is a staple here in the south. I got in trouble in 1st grade in San Diego for saying Ma'am because the teacher thought I was being a smart aleck.
We did the same with Babywise, kind of took what we thought would work for us and threw out the rest. Although we were a little more on the attachment parenting side than the super structured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So cute! Kids with manners rock.<br />
Are you teaching her &#8220;Sir&#8221; and Ma&#8217;am&#8221;? That is a staple here in the south. I got in trouble in 1st grade in San Diego for saying Ma&#8217;am because the teacher thought I was being a smart aleck.<br />
We did the same with Babywise, kind of took what we thought would work for us and threw out the rest. Although we were a little more on the attachment parenting side than the super structured.</p>
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		<title>By: michael lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="90762"]correction: parents &lt;i&gt;shouldn't&lt;/i&gt; reason with their kids.[/quote]

Thanks - change made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="90762"]correction: parents <i>shouldn&#8217;t</i> reason with their kids.[/quote]</p>
<p>Thanks - change made.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Ezzo / Babywise thing is great in metered doses, just to echo what's been said here.  We did pretty much the same thing, cherry-picking principles that made sense to us.  

I think some of the issues stem from the fact that the original book Ezzo wrote was called, "Growing Kids God's Way."  If you read some of the original material, and if you like to use your thinker, you'll extrapolate that the folks who wrote and use a book called, "Growing Kids God's Way," are pretty confident that people not using their techniques are, "Growing Kids Satan's Way."  

I mean... the Ezzo crowd was uninvited from John MacArthur's church for being too hardcore.  

Wow.  Now... that's hardcore.  

Oh, also, I'll see if I can get Paul to stop practicing medicine long enough to get off his lazy, recovering-from-knee-surgery ass and write that post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Ezzo / Babywise thing is great in metered doses, just to echo what&#8217;s been said here.  We did pretty much the same thing, cherry-picking principles that made sense to us.  </p>
<p>I think some of the issues stem from the fact that the original book Ezzo wrote was called, &#8220;Growing Kids God&#8217;s Way.&#8221;  If you read some of the original material, and if you like to use your thinker, you&#8217;ll extrapolate that the folks who wrote and use a book called, &#8220;Growing Kids God&#8217;s Way,&#8221; are pretty confident that people not using their techniques are, &#8220;Growing Kids Satan&#8217;s Way.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I mean&#8230; the Ezzo crowd was uninvited from John MacArthur&#8217;s church for being too hardcore.  </p>
<p>Wow.  Now&#8230; that&#8217;s hardcore.  </p>
<p>Oh, also, I&#8217;ll see if I can get Paul to stop practicing medicine long enough to get off his lazy, recovering-from-knee-surgery ass and write that post.</p>
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		<title>By: corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="90756"]

Beth (reader / commenter on the blog) said something a while back that makes a lot of sense to me. She said that parent's should reason with kids, because kids aren't yet reasonable people. 
[/quote]

correction: parents &lt;i&gt;shouldn't&lt;/i&gt; reason with their kids.</description>
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<p>Beth (reader / commenter on the blog) said something a while back that makes a lot of sense to me. She said that parent&#8217;s should reason with kids, because kids aren&#8217;t yet reasonable people.<br />
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<p>correction: parents <i>shouldn&#8217;t</i> reason with their kids.</p>
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		<title>By: michael lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="90745"]Someone else (Paul?) said it was  your parenting that worked rather than the somewhat suspect system of Babywise and he was going to write something for this blog on Babywise.  Has he done so?  I'd love to read what he has to say.[/quote]

He has not. Paul has been a very lazy, very tardy blogger. Something about other publishers actually paying him for his work, and me being a cheap bastard who exploits the talents of all who wander into my path. I didn't catch the whole thing because I was pretty drunk at the time.

[quote]p.s. My husband and I are new parents.  We have relatives who have used Babywise.  We are adopting a very few principles from Babywise but are not avid fans of the whole system.[/quote]

I think that describes us pretty well, too. The biggest thing was getting a handle on scheduling. When we got Sophia on a consistent bedtime, regular feeding, scheduled naps, the resulting change in her behavior and disposition was very clear, and very fast. 2-3 weeks felt like forever at the time, but looking back a year and a half later, it was pretty quick.

Beth (reader / commenter on the blog) said something a while back that makes a lot of sense to me. She said that parent's shouldn't reason with kids, because kids aren't yet reasonable people. We've seen a lot of parents who take the opposite approach, and treat their kids like they're fully grown, fully developed people right from the beginning. The idea that a 6-month old (or even a 2-year old) knows how to make the connection between actions and consequences, between getting enough sleep and being in a good mood the next day, is kind of absurd.

For us, reading the Babywise book, and more importantly, seeing how some friends of ours that we respect adopted and adapted it for their kids, gave us the permission to actually be the adults in the parenting relationship, rather than letting our little bundle of stinky joy go completely haywire on her own accord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="90745"]Someone else (Paul?) said it was  your parenting that worked rather than the somewhat suspect system of Babywise and he was going to write something for this blog on Babywise.  Has he done so?  I&#8217;d love to read what he has to say.[/quote]</p>
<p>He has not. Paul has been a very lazy, very tardy blogger. Something about other publishers actually paying him for his work, and me being a cheap bastard who exploits the talents of all who wander into my path. I didn&#8217;t catch the whole thing because I was pretty drunk at the time.</p>
<p>[quote]p.s. My husband and I are new parents.  We have relatives who have used Babywise.  We are adopting a very few principles from Babywise but are not avid fans of the whole system.[/quote]</p>
<p>I think that describes us pretty well, too. The biggest thing was getting a handle on scheduling. When we got Sophia on a consistent bedtime, regular feeding, scheduled naps, the resulting change in her behavior and disposition was very clear, and very fast. 2-3 weeks felt like forever at the time, but looking back a year and a half later, it was pretty quick.</p>
<p>Beth (reader / commenter on the blog) said something a while back that makes a lot of sense to me. She said that parent&#8217;s shouldn&#8217;t reason with kids, because kids aren&#8217;t yet reasonable people. We&#8217;ve seen a lot of parents who take the opposite approach, and treat their kids like they&#8217;re fully grown, fully developed people right from the beginning. The idea that a 6-month old (or even a 2-year old) knows how to make the connection between actions and consequences, between getting enough sleep and being in a good mood the next day, is kind of absurd.</p>
<p>For us, reading the Babywise book, and more importantly, seeing how some friends of ours that we respect adopted and adapted it for their kids, gave us the permission to actually be the adults in the parenting relationship, rather than letting our little bundle of stinky joy go completely haywire on her own accord.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  Thank you.

A while ago, you posted 20 things you had learned in the process of parenting.  One of the items was that Babywise works.  Someone else (Paul?) said it was  your parenting that worked rather than the somewhat suspect system of Babywise and he was going to write something for this blog on Babywise.  Has he done so?  I'd love to read what he has to say.

In the meantime, www.ezzo.info is a good site for further info.

p.s. My husband and I are new parents.  We have relatives who have used Babywise.  We are adopting a very few principles from Babywise but are not avid fans of the whole system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Thank you.</p>
<p>A while ago, you posted 20 things you had learned in the process of parenting.  One of the items was that Babywise works.  Someone else (Paul?) said it was  your parenting that worked rather than the somewhat suspect system of Babywise and he was going to write something for this blog on Babywise.  Has he done so?  I&#8217;d love to read what he has to say.</p>
<p>In the meantime, <a href="http://www.ezzo.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.ezzo.info</a> is a good site for further info.</p>
<p>p.s. My husband and I are new parents.  We have relatives who have used Babywise.  We are adopting a very few principles from Babywise but are not avid fans of the whole system.</p>
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		<title>By: Morphea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morphea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C for Cerise, a model of courtesy and literary accomplishment herself. Thank you, Aly.

Beautifully written, Michael. I almost drifted away when I saw "Linux", but hung in there and was suitably rewarded with a wonderful ending. Thanks for reminding ME why I say please and thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C for Cerise, a model of courtesy and literary accomplishment herself. Thank you, Aly.</p>
<p>Beautifully written, Michael. I almost drifted away when I saw &#8220;Linux&#8221;, but hung in there and was suitably rewarded with a wonderful ending. Thanks for reminding ME why I say please and thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: aly hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>aly hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Jon! He &lt;em&gt;contrasted Gretchen with&lt;/em&gt; a Linux server. Big difference. Not only was it his wife instead of his kid, he pointed out to us how Gretchen and the Linux server are different (contrasting), not the same (comparing).

This Sesame Street Literary Moment brought to you by the letter C.

And also, great essay, Michael...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Jon! He <em>contrasted Gretchen with</em> a Linux server. Big difference. Not only was it his wife instead of his kid, he pointed out to us how Gretchen and the Linux server are different (contrasting), not the same (comparing).</p>
<p>This Sesame Street Literary Moment brought to you by the letter C.</p>
<p>And also, great essay, Michael&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 05:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how you compared Sophia to a Linux server.  Very... dignified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how you compared Sophia to a Linux server.  Very&#8230; dignified.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although strangely Macs respond positively to "please" and "thank you".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although strangely Macs respond positively to &#8220;please&#8221; and &#8220;thank you&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2007/06/little-miss-manners/#comment-90280</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good parenting is like making it in the industry.  

It's all a matter of who wants it more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good parenting is like making it in the industry.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all a matter of who wants it more.</p>
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