17 thoughts on “Jobs v. Gates

  1. Chad

    Let’s start an Addison Road flame war! I’ll start: Bill Gates brings the spirit of anti christ. And, as an added bonus: his OS sucks.
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  2. Stick

    I’m very proud of the fact that if you plopped down a PC in front of me, I very likely would have no clue how to turn it on.

    My first exposure to a computer was the Mac 128K. I can barely keep track of how many Macs I’ve owned over the years. And the few times I’ve sat in front of a PC for any amount of time (count them on one hand probably), clearly reinforce the choice I’ve made.

  3. Doug

    Here is my sterotypical understanding of the Mac vs PC: The Mac is embraced and used by the artist and educator, the PC by the scientist and business person. This prejudice is supported by the contrasting styles of Jobs v. Gates.
    I am typing this on a Dell desktop(running Windows XP) because of an even more powerful reason- I’m cheap. I can’t afford those high priced machines from the Apple orchard.

  4. Matty

    My friend just started teaching at Santa Susana High, a magnet school for gifted kids that draws students from up to 70 miles to learn at its Simi Valley campus. Their teaching is advanced and interactive; their faculty, top notch.
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    The computer lab at SSH teaches kids how to fix computers — so well, in fact, that when a teacher’s PC breaks down, a student is sent to fix it.
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    My friend is running the Photoshop lab and requested that the lab be changed from PC to Mac. The computer teacher replied, “I’d love to do that — I’d love to change over the whole campus — but then my students would have no computers to fix.”
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    God bless you, Steve Jobs.
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    Matt
    Self-proclaimed mac-addict

  5. Bobby

    Hmmmm… in the interests of equal time and with my feet planted firmly in mid-air I will say my background is very PC-oriented. I recognize the PC has many weaknesses (we like to call them “quirks”) and bugs (“features”). But I’m familiar enough with them now that I guess I am just more comfortable in the mess. Not to say I’m not an Apple fan though – the iPod has obviously revolutionized the music entertainment industry and created new business models.
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    You get what you pay for can be a little misleading – is there any good reason to get a $9000 Jimmy Page model Les Paul when you can get The Darkness model for $3500? No, wait, that didn’t work… um… anyway my point is that at some price point, you stop paying for features and start paying for the name. I can’t justify paying 3x as much for the same performance. Oh yeah, and I like to play games. See this video for reference. (disclaimer: I’m hosting it briefly because I can’t find a mirror, but it’s not mine or anyone I know.)
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    Can you build your own high-end Mac for under a grand? Just wondering.
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    Bobby

  6. Bobby

    Er… apologies for the grammar there. I know we have some professional wordsmiths that browse here. I blame it on living in the South.

  7. michael lee Post author

    People often talk about design as if it’s not a real thing; they lump it together with “paying for the name” or some other cursory aspect of the product, something not worth paying for. Design is very real, and very evident in the Mac. When I sit down to create something, be it a piece of writing, some music, or my own race of super-weaponized animatronic robo-monkeys, the OS is designed to be intuitive. The hardware is very zen, visually focussed on the important tasks, clutter-free.
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    When I sit down on the Mac to create, it feels like a well-made tool in my hands. That’s design. When I sit down at a PC to create (my first two years of production were all PC based), I feel like I’m using a hammer to tighten a bolt.
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    The value of a computer isn’t measurable in speed, size, and storage, it’s in how well it allows you to do the thing you’re sitting down to do. If you want to create, sitting at a machine that’s designed to be a creative tool makes a very real, very substantive difference.

  8. Chad

    PCs (I “use” one at work) feel like child’s toys compared to the cheapest of Macs. I don’t mean fit and finish… I mean everything. And Bobby, you can blame the south for just about anything you can come up with and I would agree with you. It’s raining here. You know who’s fault that is? The entire citizenry of Mobile, AL.

  9. Bobby

    Doesn’t everyone use hammers to tighten bolts? Sometimes I even use a screwdriver for extra leverage. You mean there’s an easier way?
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    I definitely see where you are coming from. My post got cut off, but the last line mentioned that my next computer will probably be a Mac. (I’m posting from a PC – conspiracy theorists may have a heyday.) I’m a big fan of most of Apple’s recent designs and M$ has always been a large step behind on the OS imo.
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    And I won’t have to worry about if I like the games on my Mac, since I will have already played them on PC five or six years ago. :D

  10. Phil Shackleton

    it’s the software, stupid

    I have a Commodore 64 (still) in my office somewhere (shoot, EVERYTHING is in my office somewhere). I keep it around partly to remind me that in 1985, a German software company had designed a sequencing system that had fully undoable quantization, at any time, on any track. American software companies figured that out in the late 1990′s, and were very proud. That same German company had a workable, useful notation window in their Atari ST program Notator in 1988. You could use it to sequence, then print scores and parts, with good appearance and editing control. I did countless sessions with it. Can anybody tell me when an American company figured out how to put workable notation into a professional sequencing software?

    The hardware isn’t the thing… although obviously speed and storage help. The software (both the OS and the applications) is what it’s all about.

    Besides, SONY hasn’t figured out how to infiltrate my MAC yet… I hope.

  11. Stick

    Phil said: “Besides, SONY hasn’t figured out how to infiltrate my MAC yet… I hope.”
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    Actually, I’m totally lusting after a couple of sweet Sony Oxford TDM plug-ins for my TDM rig. And I’ve already got the Oxford EQ, which is quite good.
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    Speaking of games… have you checked out the new LEGO Star Wars game for Mac, of course? It’s great. It’s a birthday present for my soon to be 5 year old, his birthday’s around Christmas… but I’ve been playing it already (yes, I got it on ebay, and the package was already open). Cute, fun, family friendly, and Star Wars! What’s not to like?

  12. Bobby

    Actually I hear that LEGO Star Wars is a better game than the recently released Star Wars Battlefront II. I heard it from a Battlefront beta tester.
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    OK I heard it from me. And now so did you.
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    I bought a VIC-20 at a yardsale for $1 last year. I’m hoping to make it into a sweet USB keyboard. I loved my C64. I even have an emulator for it somewhere so I can play M.U.L.E.

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