Comments on: The Kingdom, the Gospel, and Racism http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/ your source for illegal theology downloads Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:27:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Morphea http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-1064 Morphea Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:38:13 +0000 http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=243#comment-1064 Well, I had to know for sure. I thought not, but... Well, I had to know for sure. I thought not, but…

]]> By: aly hawkins http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-1063 aly hawkins Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:28:59 +0000 http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=243#comment-1063 Are you joking? I can barely spell Prada. Are you joking? I can barely spell Prada.

]]> By: Morphea http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-1057 Morphea Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:26:50 +0000 http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=243#comment-1057 You wear Prada? You wear Prada?

]]> By: aly hawkins http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-1055 aly hawkins Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:21:44 +0000 http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=243#comment-1055 Your admiration is laughable, my child. I assure you, my stigmata do not indicate any mystical connection to the divine, nor does the apparition of the Virgin Mother that keeps re-appearing every fortnight in a rash on my sternum. You, too can experience such wonders - if you meditate 5 hours a day and walk on hot coals wearing nothing but Prada. Your admiration is laughable, my child. I assure you, my stigmata do not indicate any mystical connection to the divine, nor does the apparition of the Virgin Mother that keeps re-appearing every fortnight in a rash on my sternum. You, too can experience such wonders - if you meditate 5 hours a day and walk on hot coals wearing nothing but Prada.

]]> By: Morphea http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-1054 Morphea Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:41:52 +0000 http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=243#comment-1054 Nah. He can't possibly be a mystic. I don't think he even considers himself a christian any more. You'd have to ask him, though. I think only straight-up spirituality (regardless of religious affiliation) interests him. . We've talked about this before - your straight line up to god and all [I realize you'll be killing me when you see me]. You call it REALLY loving Jesus, I think. You're right - that's not the same as mystic status. Not quite. Nah. He can’t possibly be a mystic. I don’t think he even considers himself a christian any more. You’d have to ask him, though. I think only straight-up spirituality (regardless of religious affiliation) interests him.
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We’ve talked about this before - your straight line up to god and all [I realize you'll be killing me when you see me]. You call it REALLY loving Jesus, I think. You’re right - that’s not the same as mystic status. Not quite.

]]> By: aly hawkins http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-1053 aly hawkins Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:19:09 +0000 http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=243#comment-1053 Believe me, there is no skipping of mundane spiritual development up in THIS hizzy. Ash, Gretchen, Chad, and anyone else who has lived with me will back me up on this. I'm very mundane-y. . Maybe Ramon can give me some pointers on skipping the grind, straight to Therese of Avila or Julian of Norwich. That would be nice...Aly of Hueneme. I could start an ashram or something. Believe me, there is no skipping of mundane spiritual development up in THIS hizzy. Ash, Gretchen, Chad, and anyone else who has lived with me will back me up on this. I’m very mundane-y.
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Maybe Ramon can give me some pointers on skipping the grind, straight to Therese of Avila or Julian of Norwich. That would be nice…Aly of Hueneme. I could start an ashram or something.

]]> By: Morphea http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-1052 Morphea Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:51:14 +0000 http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=243#comment-1052 It does indeed. Ramon's going to love you - in part because the thing that irks him the most about people in modern Christianity is their seeming inabilty to live with uncertainty, with questions, and with the natural paradoxes that occur in our religious psyches. Even in leadership. There's gotta be a simple, straightforward, biblical [shudder] answer straight from their pastor or their whole faith system goes kablooie. . Ramon's special, though - he skipped most of the usual mundane spiritual development and went straight to mystic, in my view. So did you, I think. It does indeed. Ramon’s going to love you - in part because the thing that irks him the most about people in modern Christianity is their seeming inabilty to live with uncertainty, with questions, and with the natural paradoxes that occur in our religious psyches. Even in leadership. There’s gotta be a simple, straightforward, biblical [shudder] answer straight from their pastor or their whole faith system goes kablooie.
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Ramon’s special, though - he skipped most of the usual mundane spiritual development and went straight to mystic, in my view. So did you, I think.

]]> By: aly hawkins http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-1051 aly hawkins Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:54:49 +0000 http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=243#comment-1051 I don't think it's a fabulous idea for anyone to clear these questions up right away - it's been too long since we've asked them, and maybe we need to sit with them awhile, come up with some ideas, try out the ideas, and see what happens. The fact that a lot of people are asking these questions is an indication that there's a shift away from "personal salvation" being the Whole Gospel (which has been evangelicalism's main concern) toward at least wondering what a holistic Gospel would look like. Does that make sense? The asking is, for me, the important thing right now - and slowly figuring out answers with people I love who love God, too. I don’t think it’s a fabulous idea for anyone to clear these questions up right away - it’s been too long since we’ve asked them, and maybe we need to sit with them awhile, come up with some ideas, try out the ideas, and see what happens. The fact that a lot of people are asking these questions is an indication that there’s a shift away from “personal salvation” being the Whole Gospel (which has been evangelicalism’s main concern) toward at least wondering what a holistic Gospel would look like.

Does that make sense? The asking is, for me, the important thing right now - and slowly figuring out answers with people I love who love God, too.

]]> By: Morphea http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-1049 Morphea Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:35:15 +0000 http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=243#comment-1049 Well, I'm a big Gospel of Thomas fan, so when I hear "The kingdom of god is at hand", I think of the kingdom being AT MY HAND, touchable, taste-able, visible in somebody's eyes, etc. . Geez, I'd love for Somebody to clear these questions up for you when I'm within earshot. I'd really love to know. Well, I’m a big Gospel of Thomas fan, so when I hear “The kingdom of god is at hand”, I think of the kingdom being AT MY HAND, touchable, taste-able, visible in somebody’s eyes, etc.
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Geez, I’d love for Somebody to clear these questions up for you when I’m within earshot. I’d really love to know.

]]> By: aly hawkins http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/2005/09/the-kingdom-the-gospel-and-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-1047 aly hawkins Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:25:30 +0000 http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=243#comment-1047 I think "embracing a cosmic redemptive work of God" is a shift away from the evangelical focus on "accepting Jesus as your personal Savior" in order to save your ass from hell. What IS the Gospel? Might it be bigger than we've been thinking, with implications for the here and now? Is the Gospel really God's desperate, last-ditch effort to counteract Adam & Eve's original sin? What did Jesus mean when he said, "The kingdom of God is at hand?" What does the word "salvation" mean? I think “embracing a cosmic redemptive work of God” is a shift away from the evangelical focus on “accepting Jesus as your personal Savior” in order to save your ass from hell. What IS the Gospel? Might it be bigger than we’ve been thinking, with implications for the here and now? Is the Gospel really God’s desperate, last-ditch effort to counteract Adam & Eve’s original sin? What did Jesus mean when he said, “The kingdom of God is at hand?” What does the word “salvation” mean?

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